08/13/2026
There are regular episodes. And there are monster episodes.
A monster episode is one that goes far beyond the allotted recording time, far beyond the preconceived themes, and monstrously expands across different topics. It becomes a living conversation, not just an interview recording. Monster episodes often struggle to be brought to an end. They keep asking for more, more, more. Both the host and guest often feel helpless, though animated, and bound to keep feeding its thirst.
After my first few episodes, I decided to be more intentional with time and theme. Why? It made the editing process easier. Monster episodes often take up significant editing time. Where’s the head and the tail on this thing? What’s the throughline, what’s the core story here? If we spoke about only a few things, and stayed within an hour, cutting up the narrative was much easier, much faster.
But should ease be ultimate yardstick for determining legacy? Some episodes—most episodes— push back and say “No. I’m a monster. Accept me.” Today’s conversation with Seyi Akogun was the quintessential monster. I gave up trying to stick to time or theme. I went from just being a host to being a student, a real participant. Monster episodes do that—they blur the line of typical hosting and provoke me to share my story too, teaching both my guest and I at the same time.
Seyi Akogun has a rich life story, and she brought it. A story of purpose, boldness and excellence. We dove headlong into what she’s building, and her literary opus, ONE of ONE: A Masterpiece . Thank you, Seyi, for sharing your story.
Basically, one of those episodes that remind me what Breakfast and Launch PodcaBreakfast and Launch Podcasto share it with you all.
